Thursday, 14 November 2024

Minutes from the Seniors Committee meeting Nov 5 2024


Present: Richard Westergreen-Thorne (RWT), Tony Lloyd (TL), Jonathan Lean (JL), Algy Grimes (AG), Barry Donovan (BD), Nigel Underwood (NU), Dave Wood (DW), Bill Walker (BW) for one item

 

1 Stableford roll up

BW attended for this item at which the success of the Stableford roll up in 2024 and the shape of the series in 2025 was discussed. It was decided that the series would continue next year with eight dates as a further trial. Roll up entrants wishing to submit a card for their handicap would be required to declare their intention to their playing partner before going out.

Action point: RWT to contact Peter Imray to discuss the viability of an eclectic or aggregate competition with a trophy at the end of the season.

2 Minutes and matters arising

Minutes of the previous meeting were accepted.

Matters arising: Handicap divisions for the Club Senior Championship to remain as they are

3 Captain’s Report (RWG)

Since we last met, we have played a couple of competitions and have also participated in the annual match with the Juniors. There are just two further competitions to follow before the end of the year.

It was good to be able to play the 4BBB after it had been postponed earlier in the year and the weather was kind to us this time. Looking, on the day, at the TSB  Trophy awarded to the winners of the match with the Juniors it was interesting to see that this was the 42nd year since it was first awarded. This means that a junior who played in the first match would have just become eligible to play in the seniors team this year!

As well as playing golf I have attended several club meetings over the past month. Tony and I attended the recent Captains Committee which we can update you on at the meeting. I have also attended a Golf Committee Meeting and been involved in the discussions concerning the Code of Conduct and Discipline Policy which have been revised for 2024 and will be circulated to members.

At the Golf Committee meeting we confirmed the changes in the entry requirements for club competitions discussed in the previous session to align more closely to the entry requirements pre WHS which will come into operation for the 2025 season. We also discussed revisions to the Dress Code and expectations of golfers on the course and this will be revisited at the next meeting which will be take place the day before we meet so I can update you then. The aim is to republish for the new golf season alongside the Code of Conduct.

I was very pleased to be informed that the Executive Board had agreed to us having a staggered start to our matches from 2025. I have circulated the official email to that effect from the executive Board to the committee outlining exactly what has been agreed. We can now plan on the basis of organising our matches with other clubs in line with the arrangements at the three trial matches held at the end of the 2024 season.

My thoughts are now turning to the end of year and the arrangements for the handover to Tony and the arrangements for the AGM in February.

RWT explained that he had attended a presentation on club facilities etc to prospective new members including potential new seniors.

4 Vice Captain’s Report

TL had sent out get well cards to two members and had had a conversation with another who had been unable to play for some months for health reasons. He was asked to send a card to another member who was struggling with an injury

5 Immediate Past Captain’s Report

Nothing to report

6 Treasurer’s Report (BD)

1.      Financial position. At the end of October, we have just over £9k in our account. The attached schedule shows the Income & Expenditure to date this year.  A few notes:

a.      There are outstanding invoices and costs amounting to £1080 at this stage. This positively increases our cash position.

b.      There are further revenues and costs to come before the end of the year covering events such as Christmas Fayre, Presentation evening and year end donations. This amounts to a net £191.

c.      Additionally, we have a commitment to the Captains Charity to be paid from this year’s cash position. Our Budget for this is £3000. Based upon a count of £1 entries made this year into Competitions our minimum commitment would be £1675. Last year we paid £3411. In addition, the main club Charity made a contribution to the captain’s fund for the 3 rounds in a day event. We need to agree a figure for 2024 – I would recommend £3500.

d.      Any other known costs for 2024 – please let me know asap.

2.      Budget 2025. Initial preparations for next year are attached. We need to agree:

a.      Entry fees. I would suggest these remain unchanged

b.      Food costs for Matches. Paula advises no cost increase for 2025.

c.      Member & Guest Day budget. Working assumption is the same as 2024.

d.      A Budget for Match Day wine / prizes. Can we move to a ‘stock’ purchase?

e.      Any other events.

f.        Use of Captains Honorarium to fund Captains Day and M&G 

g.       Delegation of Budget to Match Secretary, Comp Secretary and Special event coordinators

3.      Bank Account. Lloyds have advised that with pretty much immediate effect our account will attract charges. Not penal but there are principles at stake! I will continue to research other options and advise the committee at a future meeting. My intention is to look for an interest-bearing account – currently not offered by Lloyds.

 

 

 

 

7 Honorary Secretary’s Report (TL)

I have prepared new drafts of the Notice of AGM and the AGM agenda for your consideration.  These include the proposal to make the Trophies and Presentation Officer a permanent committee role and a proposal to co-opt Jonathan to the committee for one year to assist the Competitions Secretary.

I have sent out two consecutive newsletters without any technical problems and I think the reason is that I have cut down the links to the bare minimum. It is not ideal but seems to be keeping the gremlins at bay.

At our last meeting I said I would investigate using IG to distribute the newsletter so I sat down with Caitlin Thomas to explore the possibilities.

While it is technically possible, it does present some problems. The biggest drawback is that by sending the newsletter to all seniors it will go to around 800 members, most of whom might not take kindly to having their Sunday morning privacy invaded!

The club regards anyone over 55 as a senior and to get around that I would have to strip out anyone who is not on our current mailing list -  a Herculean task. Caitlin has kindly offered to help me if we choose to go down that route.

I think the next move might be to investigate a google business account which Richard and I have discussed briefly already unless we just monitor the situation for a while.

TL added that Warren Churms had generously offered the senior section a bottle of 10-year-old single malt whisky as a prize. It was decided to make the most out of it by making it an auction lot in the Jock Allan Prostate Cancer Charity Day.

TL also added that one club had expressed an interest in joining us in a Swap Day in 2026.

8 Competition Secretary’s Report (JL)

Since the last meeting there have been three competitions and one match.

The rearranged 4BBB competition took place on 15th October and was won by Peter Jarman and Keith Howlett with 41 points.  This was the same total score as the teams in second and third places.

This competition was particularly stressful to arrange as it was important to have the correct number of total entrants.  Late withdrawals were a problem but fortunately there were enough emergency standbys to make the event go without a hitch.

The Autumn Singles Stableford took place on 22nd October and was won by Ian Riches with 41 points.  Chris Roy and Michael Newstead were in second and third places.

This was the final event of the Golfer of the Year qualifiers, and the final results were as follows.

1st – Graham Gadsden with a total of 68 points

2nd – Chris Roy with a total of 56 points

3rd – Cavan Kendall with a total of 55 points

4th – Peter Imray with a total of 50 points

5th – Geoff Scott with a total of 49 points

A total of 157 players played in at least one event.

96 players played in 5 events or more.  109 players played in 4 events or more.  This will become significant when entries to the Christmas Fayre open.

The Scramble with the ladies was played on 24th October and won by the team of Karen Beagent, Barry Donovan, Chris Hoad and Rhona Stallard.

The TSB trophy match Seniors vs Juniors took place on 30th October and was won by the Juniors by a score of 3½ - 2½.  The juniors fielded an impressive team with a lot of single HI players.

At the time of writing there are 61 entries to the Arthur Lucas Bring and Win.  There are rumours that there is some concern about the cost of entry of £5 on top of having to bring a prize.  If we are short of entries this might need to be reconsidered for next year.

Entries for the Christmas Fayre open on 10th November.

BD added that all 75 prizes for the Christmas Fayre had been either purchased or ordered.

Action points: Arthur Lucas to be agenda item at next meeting

JL to email all Arthur Lucas entrants with information on what to do on the day and TL to remind entrants in the newsletter that practising on the course before a shotgun start is forbidden.

9 Match Secretary’s Report (AG)

Overall, our season performance was Played 30, Won 7, Drew 7 Lost 16.  This was a slightly lower win ratio to last year. Overall we lost 127 to 101 with the best win being a 6.5 to 1.5 home to Gog Magog, the worst result has to be the 6 nil at Brocket Hall (including the home match they won 11.5 to 0.5!)

Season in numbers

We had 70 players signed up early on but it only went up to 74 which is a few more than last year. Most players getting selected for over 70% of the matches they had made themselves available for based on the mean selections overall.  There were a few outliers caused by late additions and withdrawals and long-term illness/injury. 

Of the 74 players 52 used their Joker.  The most popular joker fixture was Wellingborough 13, followed by Saffron Walden 10, Northampton 9, Aspley Guise 6, Gog Magog 4, Letchworth 4, Harpenden Common 2, Leighton Buzzard 2, Millbrook and St Neots 1 each. However 7 of those withdrew from their match. But no Jokers were played for Bedford & County, South Beds and Cambridge Country Club.  There were no Jokers allowed for Brocket Hall or Luffenham Heath, players that played in these matches will be ineligible next year

Last year withdrawals numbered 101 but we had an improvement this year with only 53 withdrawing over the course of the season. The largest number of withdrawals was for Gog Magog (away) numbering 10. Some of this was caused by illness and injury and some by changes of circumstance.  However I think the Batch selections system we used this year worked well in the end.

My thanks especially go to the players that responded to our calls for help and stepped in during the season, particularly for the South Beds away match.  It was much appreciated.

 

Matches by availability

Players available

Beds & County ( Home ) 12 a side

15

Brocket Hall (Home) 12 a side

16

South Beds ( Home )

18

Millbrook ( Home )

18

St Neots ( Home )

19

Cambridge Country Club ( Home )

20

Millbrook ( Away )

21

South Beds ( Away )

21

Harpenden Common ( Home )

22

Leighton Buzzard ( Home )

22

Leighton Buzzard ( Away )

24

Cambridge Country Club ( Away )

24

Luffenham Heath (Home) 12 a side

25

Northampton ( Away )

26

Letchworth ( Home )

26

Harpenden Common ( Away )

27

Beds & County ( Away ) 12 a side

28

Northampton ( Home )

28

Saffron Walden ( Home )

28

Gog Magog ( Away )

29

Gog Magog ( Home )

29

Saffron Walden ( Away )

30

Luffenham Heath (Away) 12 a side

32

St Neots (Away )

34

Wellingborough ( Home )

36

Wellingborough ( Away )

36

Costs

At £24 (and not charging a match fee), we were not the most expensive club for match fees and meal costs that was South Beds at £25, with Leighton Buzzard, Northampton, and Saffron Walden still only charging something like £17 and seeming to be able to supply a meal of equivalence.  And others charging £18-£22. It has to be noted that some clubs also treat us at their halfway house.

The system to ensure players are charged for the matches in a timely manner needs to be improved, the instructions to the organisers has been amended to ensure there is improvement next year.

One thing that caused some concern was where players signed up for only away matches and no home, they were not selected (even when a Joker was used) it was discussed with the individuals and they accepted the decision taken. It needs stressing again that we require players to sign up for at least two home and two away matches to ensure fair play in overall costs.

Selection system

In my view we should continue with the batch selections using Google Sheets which, after an initial teething problem, has worked very well, thanks to Alban Macdonald for all the work he has put in to creating the system and the help he gave me throughout the year.

Finally thanks to all that played and in particular to my ‘back pocket’ players that stepped in at short notice.

RWT thanked Alban MacDonald and Algy Grimes for the huge amount of work they had put in to organising the matches this year.

10 Staggered start report

RWT reported back on the Executive Board’s decision to approve a staggered start for our matches next year.

Action point: TL to write to all clubs informing them of the decision, particularly those with a later start who might benefit from the staggered start by bringing the start time forward.

TL to write to all clubs after the AGM with new contact details

11 Presentation Dinner

DW gave an update on progress and latest number attending. Wendy Ashcroft had been asked to produce certificates for the top placed GOTY players

12 2025 events

Seniors Tour

BD gave an update on the Seniors Tour at Forest Pines on May 18/19 next year including prices and timings. It was agreed that JL would set up a competition on IG and TL would publicise it in the next newsletter

Calendar update

TL presented an update on the 2025 calendar with one minor alteration.

Competition arrangements

It was noted that numbers of entrants was down in some competitions, notably the 3 Clubs and a Putter and Arthur Lucas (Bring and Win)

Action point: January meeting to discuss possible reasons for this and ways of encouraging more to take part

Budget, costings, entry fees for 2025

BD said he did not envisage us having to increase the cost of competitions next year.

Action point: January committee meeting to discuss Bring and Win costs and prizes.

13 Captain’s Charity

TL reported back on his meeting with next year’s Club and Ladies Captains to discuss the “one club” approach to charitable giving. The three, with input from the juniors, had come up with a shortlist of five charities which would be put to the entire membership in a poll in the New Year. Running in tandem with the main charity would be a local community fund which would provide small amounts of money for local groups and administered by the club’s charity committee.

14 AGM

TL had circulated the latest version of the invitation to members and the AGM Agenda and minor changes were agreed.

15 AOB

It was agreed that gratuities for staff next year would be £250 and the donation to the Junior Section to be £125.

Keith Howlett to be invited to the next meeting to discuss handicap etc

Date and time of next meeting: 2.30pm Jan 14 2025

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tuesday, 12 November 2024

Arthur Lucas Cup (Bring and Win) November 12 2024


Winner Jack Shepherd receives the Cup from Seniors Captain Richard Westergreen-Thorne



Everyone was a winner at the Seniors Arthur Lucas Cup bring and win event as competitors were called forward to choose a prize from the groaning table in the Burgoyne Suite. OK we did bring the prizes ourselves, but it was fun selecting from those on offer before you got down to the toy gnome (unclaimed).
First choice went to Jack Shepherd who won the Arthur Lucas Cup with 38 points.
In second place, also on 38, was David Price and in third, on 37 points, was Kevin Barbour.
Fifty-eight players competed from the Carthagena white tees in pleasant Autumn weather.
Thanks to everyone who took part, most of whom brought prizes worth far more than the minimum £7.50 required.


Runner up David Price, above, and third place Kevin Barbour below

Wednesday, 30 October 2024

TSB Trophy - Juniors v Seniors - Oct 30 2024

 

Ixie Akpan holds the TSB Trophy as the Junior team celebrate victory over the Seniors 


The long-standing tradition of the Juniors and Seniors competing for the TSB Trophy continued with another well-earned victory for the Juniors.
Amazingly, the Trophy goes back 42 years and the Juniors are certainly ahead overall by quite some margin.
Today was no exception, with the Juniors coming out winners 3½/2½.
As is tradition the Seniors bought their Junior playing partners lunch after the match.
Club Captain Justin Thomas was present to see the teams tee off and to present the Trophy to Junior Captain Ixie Akpan.

Club Captain Justin Thomas presents Junior Captain Ixie Akpan with the TSB Trophy

On the first tee: Freya Pallet, Junior Captain Ixie Akpan, Seniors Captain Richard Westergreen-Thorne and Peter Salmon



Chris Walker, Stephen Cherry, Jago Skerratt and Jack Skelton



Chloe Church, Paul Life, Tony Lloyd and Ryan Brister

Anthony Bell, Algy Grimes, Nathan Church and Georgia Gordon

William Mowe, Graham Gadsden, Lucy Edwards and Michael Newstead

Emma Robson, James Hazelwood, Nigel Underwood and David McNair


Thursday, 24 October 2024

Seniors & Ladies Scramble Oct 24 2024


Winners Barry Donovan and Rhona Stallard with Seniors Captain Richard Westergreen-Thorne and Ladies Captain Chris Ellis. Karen Beagent and Chris Hoad were also on the winning team


The Indian Summer continued for 40 Seniors and 40 ladies taking part in the annual Scramble.

The scores were very close with only eight points separating the 20 teams.

The winners, with nett 56, were Karen Beagent, Barry Donovan, Chris Hoad and Rhona Stallard. 

In second place with nett 57 were Andy Brown, Trevor Darrington, Anna Hoad and Anita Isaacson.

And in third, also on 57, were Jean Cobb, Wilma Elam, David McNair and Michael Newstead.

Commiserations to the three other teams on 57 points who were beaten on countback.

The prizes -  pro shop vouchers - were presented by Ladies Captain Chris Ellis.

Second place: Anita Isaacson and Anna Hoad played with Andy Brown and Trevor Darrington

Third place: David McNair, Jean Cobb, Wilma Elam and Michael Newstead




 

Tuesday, 22 October 2024

Autumn Stableford Trophy Oct 22 2024

Winner Ian Riches is presented with the Trophy by Vice Captain Tony Lloyd


 The Autumn Stableford Trophy - the last of our Golfer of the Year qualifiers - took place  on the Carthagena course under blue skies and amid balmy autumn weather.

Despite the benign conditions the scores by most of the 88 players were on the low side, with only 10 managing 36 points or more. 

The winner, on 41 points, was Ian Riches who pipped Chris Roy, with 40 points, into second place. In third place, on 39 points, was Michael Newstead.

The result also decided the Golfer of the Year Competition with Graham Gadsden emerging victorious on 68 points. He is closely followed by Peter Imray (66), Cav Kendall (59), Chris Roy (56), Rob Bage (53) and Stephen Foster (52).

£10 raffle prizes were won by Stephen Foster, Kevin Barbour, Peter Roberts and Nick Seeley. The money will be added to their pro shop accounts.

For one person, today's competition was his last. Ron Atkinson is bowing out of competitive golf at the age of 92. Ron, who has been a member of John O'Gaunt for 54 years, held the record for the oldest member still taking part in competitions. He will continue playing social golf. Well done that man!

Still smiling despite being pipped into 2nd place: Chris Roy 

Third place: Michael Newstead



Saturday, 19 October 2024

Notes from the Senior Section Committee Meeting Oct 8 2024

 

Present: Richard Westergreen-Thorne (RWT), Tony Lloyd (TL), Algy Grimes (AG), Jonathan Lean (JL), Barry Donovan (BD), Nigel Underwood (NU), Dave Wood (DW)

1 Minutes of the previous meeting

Approved

2 Matters arising from the last meeting

TL to ask Peter Imray and Bill Walker to come up with a joint proposal on the Stableford Roll-Up for next year

3 Captain’s Report (RWT)

A lot seems to have happened since I last wrote a report for the meeting.

In particular, we have played one or two matches almost every week with other clubs to complete the match season. I have enjoyed the opportunity to play in some close games on great courses along the way. Whilst Algy will be able to outline the overall facts and figures we did have an upturn in fortunes in the latter stages of the year and I was also lucky enough to have some good partners to play with, so my own results also improved. Unfortunately, we were not able to turn all the better performances into wins and actually drew the last four matches of the season which must be some kind of record.

Many thanks to all the Match Organisers and, in particular, to Algy Grimes for all the hard work to get 30 teams at the right place at the right time during the year. I know that Tony will also enjoy the matches next year and the opportunity to meet so many different clubs and players.

The staggered start trial matches went very well and this is covered in a separate agenda item.

Thanks to Richard Coventry for an excellent Away Day and the day before we have our meeting we will have had the opportunity to play at Peterborough Milton in our Swap Day. They are good examples of our wide ranging programme of events this year to provide opportunities to get involved.

We are now in our Autumn swing of competitions and I hope that the weather improves from that experienced last week in the Gordon Percival. I had hoped that the rain at the start of the year would mean we would have dry weather later in the year but sadly not.

I have attended several meetings on behalf of the seniors and fed back to the committee much of what was discussed. I have a couple of points to pass on from the recent Golf Committee Meeting and will do so at the meeting. I have already circulated a note from Nigel Tarn regarding some proposals for 2025 and we can discuss at the meeting along with a couple of other points raised in the committee session.

The most recent Captains Committee Meeting was postponed due to ill health, and I had sent my report for the meeting to you in advance. I do not yet have the rearranged date. I can update you on the discussions at the previous meeting of this committee when we meet.

I recently hosted the past senior captains lunch which was attended by 12 past senior section captains plus myself and the Club Captain, Justin Thomas.  I agreed at the lunch, which was a very pleasant event, that in future the organisation of the lunch each year should be led by the Immediate Past Captain as Alan Fowler would like to hand over the responsibility.

Tony and I hosted the Senior Captain and Vice-Captain from Newmarket recently in advance of our having a Swap Day with them in 2025. They have invited us back to play there in the spring so we will have a chance to make some strong links with them prior to swapping for the day.

I attended the funeral of Simon Kimber last week on behalf of the section and I was very sad to hear of the passing of Fergus Moynihan.

RWT went on to outline points discussed at the Golf Committee Meeting which included the new make-up of the handicap committee, possible changes to be made to some club competitions, new score cards for next season with stroke index changes, clarification of rules around practising on the course and a new look at the club dress code.

The club’s “one charity” policy for next year was discussed in terms of its impact on the Senior Section and our £1 charity donation taken from competition entry fees.

Action point: TL to liaise with the Ladies Section on their approach to the “one charity” policy.

 4 Vice Captain’s report (TL)

TL reported that he had sent a note of condolence to Liz Moynihan following the sad death of her husband, Fergus.

5 Immediate Past Captain’s report (JL)

None

6 Treasurer’s report (BD)

 

1)     Current Financial situation as of 3/10/24. As of today, we have funds of £5877.41 Outstanding invoices from the Main club are £500 and I expect costs of around £2000 from the main club for food etc.

2)      Some improvement in the Match admin and charging process. Request for access to IG still with Gordon.

3)      Members survey for 2025 Captains Tour completed – pretty good response. Separate item on the agenda .

4)      Christmas Fayre. Via Algy’s good offices we have already purchased the drinks for the Fayre. An initial approach to Piggots has been made for Meat – no response yet.

5)      Captains’ Charity donation figures to be calculated shortly now that the end of the playing season is approaching.

6)      Similarly preparation for Year end and next year’s budget will commence soon. Important that we understand the likely costs for 2025 for food and fees for entrance to competitions.

 7 Hon Sec Report (TL)

 The holiday season gave me a quiet month as far as my Hon Sec duties are concerned. But the show must go on and I am extremely grateful to Richard for keeping the newsletter going and to Algy for editing the blog in my absence.

We have signed up two new members for the newsletter this month:

One is a member at South Beds but has moved to live in Potton and is going to join JOG when his membership lapses at South Beds in April. I met him at the South Beds away match and he is very keen to get involved.

Another club member has also joined after turning 60. He has signed up for the 4BBB and the scramble with the ladies and wants to get involved in the roll-ups. It’s a shame he didn’t know he could have been playing with us all year and that is something I need to convey to the membership so people are not kept waiting needlessly.

I have not heard back from Luffenham Heath about their desire to “keep the door open” for a  swap day in 2026 so I will turn my attention now to seeking an alternative venue.

My focus for the next few weeks will be on preparing for the agm in February and getting information out to the members on nominations for office.

I have experienced further problems with the newsletter failing to be delivered through gmail and will speak to Gordon to explore the possibility of using IG.

Action point: TL to add stableford roll up dates to the 2025 calendar and distribute to members.

8 Competition Secretary’s Report (JL)

Since the last meeting there have been two competitions.

The Gordon Percival Team Trophy was played on 1st October.  This event significantly benefitted the early starters as the heavens opened mid-morning and several of the later starters had to abandon their rounds.

The event was eventually won by the team of Graham Gadsden, Bill Conway and John Hazelwood with a total of 101 points.  The Martin Ives individual trophy was won by Warren Churms with 39 points just edging out Chris Saunders and Jeevie Jeeves who both had 38 points.

The 3 Clubs and a Putter competition will take place just before the meeting.

The rest of October is busy with the rearranged 4BBB taking place on 15th and the Autumn Singles Stableford on 22nd.  The Scramble with the Ladies is on 24th and the annual match against the juniors is on 30th October.

Individual Stableford roll-ups also take place on 10th October and 5th November.

 

9 Match Secretary’s Report (AG)

Since the Committee last met we have played 3 home and 4 away matches, having lost 2 and drawn 5 of those matches including the last 4 matches of the season.

Similar issues continued with the opponent’s shots allowance in most cases being more than JOG’s.

Some withdrawals caused a bit of an issue, and after a late appeal we had more than enough players for the match at South Beds.

Further details of the overall season will be held over to the next committee meeting but it is safe to say that virtually everyone had a fair share of games.

        

10 Presentation dinner (DW)

Dave Wood gave an update on responses to his invitation which were “slow”.

Action point: TL to put a reminder in the newsletter asking people to confirm attendance and make their meal  choices.

11 Recent events

The Away Day and Swap Days had been very successful. RWT thanked Richard Coventry and Algy Grimes for the hard work they had put into the events. A discussion was held on the possibility of returning to Peterborough Milton in 2026.

Action point: RWT to speak to his contact there

Honours Board Unveiling: Around 50 people had attended the unveiling and there were lots of good memories shared.

Bring and Win competition: A discussion was held on the rules for this year.

Action point: TL to include a resume of the rules in the newsletter

Christmas Fayre Competition: BD gave an update on progress in sourcing prizes

 

12 AGM and committee for 2025

TL presented a draft notice of agm and agenda

After a discussion it was agreed to ask the agm to approve that the Trophies and Presentation Evening officer becomes a permanent committee member and that Jonathan Lean, stepping down as Competitions Secretary be co-opted onto the committee next year.

Action points: TL to produce a further draft of the notice to members and agenda for the next meeting and to trail the agm in the newsletter. TL to put a copy of the constitution on the blog.

 

13 Staggered start (RWT proposal to Executive Board)

October 2024

Summary

Following the trial of three Senior Section home matches using a staggered start the Senior Section wish to propose the following for 2025:

All weekday home inter-club matches which have an early morning start, be allowed to have the option of starting concurrently on the 1st and 17th tees of either the JOG or CAR course.  3 groups would start on the 17th tee and 5 groups on the 1st tee.

To avoid the perception of the introduction of another acceptable starting tee, the following strict conditions should be applied.

·       It only applies to inter-club matches for all sections of the club.

·       Morning start before 9.30am first tee time.

·       No more than 8 tee slots in total.

·       Only 3 starting slots from the alternative tee.

·       This format must have pre-approval from the course manager in each instance.

·       Match to be followed by a meal in the clubhouse.

Outcome of the Trial

The aim of the three-match trial was to see if the staggered start would:

·       address the serious concern that if we do not adopt a staggered start we will lose further clubs in the next few months and that these will be the more prestigious ones on our fixture list – this is a significant long-term threat to the club with financial implications

·       significantly improve the golfing experience of both members and visitors, encourage participation and deliver a positive impact from a tweak that is already in place at almost all other clubs

·       provide considerable benefits to the experience of those taking part with no negative impact upon any other JOG members

Three home matches were selected for the trial, two played on JOG and one on Carthagena. All three matches had a member of the Senior Section Committee in attendance, two had members of the Executive Board in attendance and the third had a member of the Board as a participant.

The observations at each match from the Executive Board Members, Senior Section Committee Members and Senior Section Captain have already been passed to the Executive Board.

In summary:

-          the arrangements worked well and the 5 -3 split between the two tees was the preferred option

-          group 8 (the last group to tee off under the usual arrangements) were able to do so at least 30 minutes earlier with a staggered start

-          the time the first group to finish had to wait for the last group to be ready to dine was reduced by 30 - 45 minutes

-          the time savings at the start and end meant that the match experience, including the after-match meal, was completed at least 50 - 60 minutes earlier

Benefits:

-          the condensed time for the matches meant that there was significantly less ‘hanging around’ at the start by players

-          those finishing in the first groups had far less time to wait at the end

-          the match experience was improved for participants, less waiting to play and dine and an earlier journey home of particular benefit for visiting players

-          the visiting teams all strongly welcomed the change and the benefits to them as visitors to JOG and addressed their concerns about the long term future of the fixture

From the Senior Captain’s perspective, it was reported after each of the trial games that:

-           there was a more relaxed and purposeful feel to the day

-          it was much easier when the first group came into the clubhouse to be accurate with the catering staff as to the timing of the meal - which was appreciated by the staff

-          with players arriving in closer order there was an enhanced buzz of conversations and engagement in the clubhouse

-          the visiting Captains were all very positive about the changes

-          JOG players were all very positive about the changes

The General Manager and Course Manager were kept fully informed of the arrangements for each day and no issues or problems were reported.

There was no negative impact on any other JOG member and there was no issue of other JOG members seeking to ‘push in’.

Conclusion

The three trial matches were a success:

The change to tee arrangements significantly enhanced the golfing experience of members and visitors alike.

The staggered start addressed the growing concern of losing prestigious clubs from our fixture list.

There was no negative impact upon other JOG members

The Senior Section wish to propose that a Staggered Start be available for 2025 in line with the proposal outlined in the opening summary.

Many thanks for allowing us to undertake the trial and put forward this proposal to the Executive Board.

Senior Section

October 2024

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BD analysed the response to the survey which he described as encouraging. The favourite itinerary seemed to be one night away with two rounds of golf.

Action point: BD to go ahead on the basis that this would happen in in 2025. He and TL to liaise on publishing the survey feedback in the newsletter

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A discussion was held on having age-related prizes in senior competitions. It was decided that this was not desirable.

A discussion was held on the possibility of pairing up older players in matches. It was felt that this would be too arduous for already stretched organisers.

Purchase of Dymo Printer: The purchase of a printer (£58.85) for producing competition score cards was approved.

Pace of play: Following a complaint from a member on pace of play in the Gordon Percival Team Trophy is was decided to remind players in the newsletter of the importance of keeping up with the group ahead or letting the group behind through

Match emails: some were finding it difficult to locate match emails showing selections.

Action point: AG to ask organisers to put the word MATCH in the header fields to aid email searches.

 

 Dates of future Meetings

5th November /14th January